COG

Economics of Ownership Group

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DISCUSSION: Browse discussion to date
October 7, 1999 to July 13, 2005
July 14, 2005 to present

The objective for this group is to expand the number of economists who take a professional interest in issues of capital ownership.

Because distribution of the means of production is normally taken as a given in economic analysis, there is no well established convention for evaluating policy proposals of a kind
that are likely to be developed in COG discussions. Nevertheless, political approval of tax and regulatory changes required for implementation of broader capital ownership rights
is likely to depend on the ability of promoters to show plausible improvement in the kinds of indicators that are accepted as marks of relative economic success or failure.

The first and most rigid requirement of "scientific" economics is that a proposed (or applied) policy cannot be acknowledged as an improvement to the general welfare unless the rewards to some groups are not achieved by imposing losses on others. The issue of broadened capital ownership therefore sends an immediate signal to an economist that it is forbidden or professionally dangerous territory.

On the other hand, technical skills and experience of economists can be helpful in producing
quantitative refutations to hypotheses that underly the arguments put forward by participants in the debate. Economists who may be induced to participate in the COG discussions can be helpful by identifying important hypotheses at stake, and by suggesting appropriate and cost-effective means for putting them to the test.

The exercise should be intellectually stimulating, for it involves speculating on the effects of changing fundamental presumptions on how the economy operates and the economic impact of initiatives introduced to make such changes.

The original discussion generated some heated debate. Writing a summary which would
be recognized by all of the participants as representative of their views is an impossible
task. Several of the group's participants have made an effort to summarize. These summaries
are strictly the points of view of their authors. The Capital Ownership Group, Kent State
University and the Ford Foundation should not be construed as endorsing these views.

KEITH WILDE
(Keith Wilde coordinated the Economics of Ownership working group from October 1999 to April 2001)

REBUTTAL TO KEITH WILDE
(Several participants who found Wilde's summary to be offensive and libelous prepared a response)

DAVID ELLERMAN

RODNEY SHAKESPEARE
(Rodney Shakespeare prepared an alternative summary incorporating feedback from several participants)

RICHARD STUTSMAN

SHANN TURNBULL
(Shann Turnbull wanted to clarify parts of the discussion that were not covered in the above summations)