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Re: SOCIAL_INS: Let's start the discussion



Michael, here's my input for generating a debate on keeping the promises that have been made under Social Security and Medicare, a pay-as-you-go system today that has no assets behind it except for the hidden unsustainable debt of future taxpayers of over $200,000 for every man, woman and child who will have to pay a growing retired population.   http://www.cesj.org/homestead/summary-cha.htm  For details see the book flyer for "Capital Homesteading for Every Citizen: A Just Free Market Solution for Saving Social Security" at http://www.cesj.org/publications/capitalhomesteading/whatif-flyer.pdf.  Testimonials and the entire book can be downloaded free at www.cesj.org.

Own or Be Owned,
Norm Kurland

Michael Bindner wrote:
Now that we know the list works, I wonder who is on it.
 
If you are still on it, pipe up.
 
Also, it is time to start a discussion.
 
The elections are coming up.  The next Congress will be President Bush's last try to enact Social Security Reform.
 
If you would, please assess the prospects of this under the the possible congressional scenarios (both houses Republican, both houses Democrat, Dem House/Rep. Senate and Rep. House/Dem Senate).
 
Also, those familiar with the list know that I have a proposal, Norm has a proposal and the President has one.
 
If you are unsure about any of these, please ask.
 
In your assessment, mention the likelihood of each of these proposals passing or even being debated and who would have to be signed up to do so.  How would organized labor figure in.  Will it continue to obstruct debate?  Is there a way to make the concept attractive to organized labor?  Has Labor gotten too much in bed with the Democrats to do anything but obstruct while George Bush is president?  If so, is this in the interest of their members?
 
Look at each proposal (Bush, Kurland, Bindner) and assess in terms of wealth expansion and workplace democraticization, as well as globalization.
 
Please do not inject any other proposals.  This is not the forum to trot out Social Credit, the Tobin Tax or Georgism since none of these have any direct impact on the distribution and control of stock ownership.  While the proceeds of these schemes may be used to buy stocks, changing stock ownership is not their primary purpose.  Of course, if there are other proposals out there you would like to discuss, such as the Clinton USA account or some variation on that, feel free.
 
Let's get the ball rolling.

Michael Bindner <iowaequity@yahoo.com> wrote: