OWNERSHIP: Re: Replying to Keith -- threats

["Rodney Shakespeare" <Rodney.Shakespeare1@btopenworld.com>]

Dear All,
    I think nobody should be under any illusions as to the meaning of Bill
Ryan's latest message.

    It means that, if anything happens that he does not like, Ryan will make
an attack on the tax-exempt status of Ford Foundation, Kent University and
COG.

    And even if his email below cannot be construed as a threat, Ryan's
character and history is such that, if he feels aggrieved, he will certainly
attack tax-exempt status.

    So, as I previously said, the situation is getting worse and
worse...............

Rodney Shakespeare.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William B. Ryan" <w_b_ryan@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 5:34 PM
Subject: Replying to Keith--Re: OWNERSHIP: Ownership Moderator


> Would not Carey's book be considered unspeakable
> heresy by our True Believers--Kurland, Shakespeare,
> Reiners, et al.?  And if this were a real discussion
> forum, rather than the intended propaganda outlet for
> a particular viewpoint, wouldn't it be something we
> would want to discuss?  I would certainly like to
> discuss the book, and invite you to lead the
> discussion--perhaps at the Social Credit list.
>
> Keith, the issue before us right now in this
> particular forum is not moderation. It has never been
> about moderation.  I am in favor of moderation.
>
> It all depends on the competence, diligence and
> impartiality of the moderator, however, in guiding
> meaningful discussion.
>
> It is not moderation--certainly not by the dictionary
> definition of the word--to suddenly appoint a
> "moderator" to a ongoing discussion that has not been
> previously moderated, to go through several years of
> achives accessible to the general public through the
> Internet, redacting messages he and his fellow
> conspirators deem "offensive."
>
> It does indeed raise First Amendment issues, inasmuch
> as the Ford Foundation, Kent State University, and COG
> are federally tax-exempt organizations--and this is
> after all a political forum.
>
> Redacting his messages posted through the years and/or
> excluding a discussant from future postings might well
> conceivably jeopardize their tax-exempt status, I'm
> sure they know, as well as possibly generate a lot of
> bad publicity in the process.
>
> I'm also sure that Kurland, being a lawyer, knows it
> too.  He's just trying to intimidate, as is his style.
>
> We all know that.
>
> And we all know what's really going on.
> -
>
>
>
> --- Keith Wilde <keithwilde@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "William B. Ryan" <w_b_ryan@yahoo.com>
> > > But I remind you once again that this list is
> > > something other than a marketing scheme for the
> > Cult
> > > of Kelso.  It is supposedly, we thought, a forum
> > for
> > > meaningful discussion as to its merits and
> > demerits,
> > > as well as the general concept of expanded
> > ownership.
> >
> > And while that has been going on for several years,
> > the sound and fury has
> > been overleaped by Ray Carey, whose 2004 book
> > Democratic Capitalism leaves
> > the archive of this debate far in the dust behind
> > him.
> >
> > I will not have access to this site for the next few
> > days, so will be
> > unresponsive to anything directed my way.
> >
> > Keith Wilde
> >
> >
>
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