Re: Replying to Keith--Re: OWNERSHIP: Ownership Moderator

["Keith Wilde" <keithwilde@sympatico.ca>]

Ray Carey is well known to the principals at COG.  I encountered him at COG 
conferences where his voice was heard, modestly and unexpectedly, as one of 
quiet but unmistakable authority.

I will post some comments about the book here in a few days.

KW

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Subject: Replying to Keith--Re: OWNERSHIP: Ownership Moderator


> Would not Carey's book be considered unspeakable
> heresy by our True Believers--Kurland, Shakespeare,
> Reiners, et al.?  And if this were a real discussion
> forum, rather than the intended propaganda outlet for
> a particular viewpoint, wouldn't it be something we
> would want to discuss?  I would certainly like to
> discuss the book, and invite you to lead the
> discussion--perhaps at the Social Credit list.
>
> Keith, the issue before us right now in this
> particular forum is not moderation. It has never been
> about moderation.  I am in favor of moderation.
>
> It all depends on the competence, diligence and
> impartiality of the moderator, however, in guiding
> meaningful discussion.
>
> It is not moderation--certainly not by the dictionary
> definition of the word--to suddenly appoint a
> "moderator" to a ongoing discussion that has not been
> previously moderated, to go through several years of
> achives accessible to the general public through the
> Internet, redacting messages he and his fellow
> conspirators deem "offensive."
>
> It does indeed raise First Amendment issues, inasmuch
> as the Ford Foundation, Kent State University, and COG
> are federally tax-exempt organizations--and this is
> after all a political forum.
>
> Redacting his messages posted through the years and/or
> excluding a discussant from future postings might well
> conceivably jeopardize their tax-exempt status, I'm
> sure they know, as well as possibly generate a lot of
> bad publicity in the process.
>
> I'm also sure that Kurland, being a lawyer, knows it
> too.  He's just trying to intimidate, as is his style.
>
> We all know that.
>
> And we all know what's really going on.
> -
>
>
>
> --- Keith Wilde <keithwilde@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "William B. Ryan" <w_b_ryan@yahoo.com>
>> > But I remind you once again that this list is
>> > something other than a marketing scheme for the
>> Cult
>> > of Kelso.  It is supposedly, we thought, a forum
>> for
>> > meaningful discussion as to its merits and
>> demerits,
>> > as well as the general concept of expanded
>> ownership.
>>
>> And while that has been going on for several years,
>> the sound and fury has
>> been overleaped by Ray Carey, whose 2004 book
>> Democratic Capitalism leaves
>> the archive of this debate far in the dust behind
>> him.
>>
>> I will not have access to this site for the next few
>> days, so will be
>> unresponsive to anything directed my way.
>>
>> Keith Wilde
>>
>>
>
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