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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] OWNERSHIP: Re: Alaska dividend model for Iraq
Gravel's proposal was to invest the state's royalties in acquiring the pipeline, which would have been putting all of Alaska's eggs into one basket. It would have been a windfall for the bought-out owners and the "advisers" who put the deal together. Moreover, it would have been an investment into infrastructure which would have dwindled in value as Alaska's oil was depleted. The Permanent fund--approved by the voters in referendum--follows the prudential rule of diversification, by investment in stocks, bonds and real estate--which will directly provide income to the people of Alaska forever. -- >From : "Norman G. Kurland" <thirdway@cesj.org> Reply-To : ownership@cog.kent.edu To : ownership@cog.kent.edu Subject : Re: OWNERSHIP: Alaska dividend model for Iraq Date : Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:49:07 -0400 I thought this is a discussion group on ownership, not trickle-down profit sharing, as in the politically corrupt Alaskan model. The issue of how to achieve widespread citizen participation in Iraqi oil profits is ultimately a moral issue and an issue or whether economic power should be in the hands of the mullahs, foreign owners, the state and its bureaucrats, or democratically spread out as a right of private property in the hands individually of every citizen. Profit sharing that does not flow from the ownership of capital leaves the recipients in a permanent state of economic dependency on the whim of those in power. That is the approach of Karl Marx. That's not democracy. Here is a proposal that is based on widespread ownership sharing that I thought everyone in this group is implicitly in favor of. Norm Kurland Center for Economic and Social Justice CESJ web site: http://www.cesj.org Global Justice Movement web site: http://www.globaljusticemovement.org -- >From : "Norman G. Kurland" <thirdway@cesj.org> Reply-To : ownership@cog.kent.edu To : ownership@cog.kent.edu CC : "Shakespeare, Rodney" <Rodney.Shakespeare1@btopenworld.com> Subject : Re: OWNERSHIP: Alaska dividend model for Iraq Date : Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:32:17 -0400 The confusion stems from the original plan advanced by former Senator Mike Gravel to establish a General Stock Ownership Plan that was designed to establish share accounts for every citizen to become an owner of the Alaskan pipeline. In that case, the dividends would have flowed to each citizen based on their participation in ownership. And it would then be example of binary economics and be consistent with the Kelso-Adler principles of economic justice. Unfortunately, Senator Gravel's political enemies strongly opposed this ownership proposal and convinced the Alaskan voters to support the current dividend plan, which is a traditional trickle-down welfare state proposal to keep the Alaskan voters economically powerless and dependent on the ownership elite and their political cronies who control the Alaskan economy. Today Alaskan dividends are disconnected from direct personal ownership and are therefore an example of socialism, not the just third way advanced by Kelso. I think Rodney understands this distinction. -- _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail To subscribe to this or another of COG's discussion groups register at: http://cog.kent.edu/register.html To unsubscribe from this group send a message to majordomo@cog.kent.edu with a single line in the body of the message that says: unsubscribe ownership
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