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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: Yes, the Earth is Round (2) With self-financing depreciationcashflows
Shann replied to "Yes, the Earth is Round" in three parts. I will comment on the three parts here so as not to further clog inboxes. 1. This part was rather terminological in the sense that it emphasized using new terms like "procreative capital" when there was no new concept. Moreover it is not good terminology to label an asset with a property that it would have under a certain array of prices and not under others. A buggy-whip-producing machine may have been "procreative" around the turn of the century but not now so it is not an attribute of the asset itself but the array of prices in the economic context. All this is well known in the economic theory of capital, and I won't waste anyone's time debating terminology. 2. This part analyzed the dilution+taxbreak argument, and in spite of much darting off in many other directions, agreed with the argument. Shann wanted to make the depreciation calculations explicit rather than implicit (prior to the EBIT) which is fine but does not change the dilution argument in the slightest. He gives a long numerical example which only reiterates my point that you need some change in labor compensation or productivity to prevent the result that the ESOP shares are paid for by dilution and tax breaks. He uses a $200 dollar reduction in labor costs to precisely counterbalance the $200 ESOP contribution, and that is exactly the sort of thing that is needed to counteract the dilution effect. My only puzzlement in the submission is that if Shann now understands his own example of the shares being paid for by reductions in labor compensation, why does he continue the rhetoric full-force about procreative capital? I am afraid the intellectual fog has not quite lifted. The "answer" to the twice-paid-for argument seemed to only be that not both payments were in cash. No one said both payments were in cash so I fail to see the point. The cash injected into the company is paid for twice: once in the shares issued to the ESOP and the second time in the loan payments packaged as ESOP contributions. Since the shares don't come back to the company when the ESOP contributions are made and since each transaction is a stand-alone quid pro quo transaction, that makes the injected cash "twice-paid-for". But the second payment is attenuated with the tax break, etc etc. 3. Here again, I couldn't find much counterargument about dynamic expiring property rights. There were a few paragraphs on the virtues of saving upfront costs with leasing rather than buying property. Nothing controversial there. He emphasized that he is only considering voluntary changes, not expropriation or state-mandated attenuations of property rights, which takes it out of the realm of public policy debate (which is where I thought we were) and into the realm of personal financial or estate planning. Of course, any property owner could choose to parse the bundle of usual property rights and sell certain expiring or lease-like rights to a current user and the remaining long-term ownership could be sold or gifted to a land trust or community land bank. That does not answer either of the problems I raised about paying for the transfer to the land trust (assuming a gift reminds me of the old economist joke about "assume a can opener") and about the supply effects of attentuated property rights on produced property. If the construction firm building a chemical plant could only be paid the value of a short-term capitalized lease and had to gift the remaining value to a procreative asset trust, then it would have a large effect on the supply of procreative assets--that is the the "funny" (in the sense of weird, not ha-ha) part of the idea. If the lease period is around the lifetime of the asset, then one is only kidding oneself to make a big distinction between owning an asset and buying a long-term lease. Moving on: Since no one has yet dented the dilution+tax break argument, I will stop reiterating those points and move on in later submissions to the risk-bearing arguments discussed by Harrington and Upton. _______________________________ David Ellerman Economic Advisor to the Chief Economist World Bank, Room MC4-335 1818 H St., NW Washington, DC 20433 Ph: 202-473-6368 Fx: 202-522-1158
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