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[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: United ESOP highlights a problem
Norm Kurland wrote: <<I agree that the economy must meet its retirement promises to all retired workers. And under our Capital Homestead Act and our "Saving Social Security" proposals, those promises would be met. However, I don't know how you define a "good" defined benefit plan. To me, that's like a "good" pay-as-you-go Social Security System. They both work as long as companies are making high profits and the economy is healthy and growing. They're both inflexibly structured on promises that cannot be kept if people live longer, the economy declines or those industries that make pension promises are no longer cost-competitive in world trade. >> Actually, stock ownership works the same way, in that it depends on the existence of companies with a thriving customer and employee base. Of course, in the short run, Americans of all strata holding shares in global firms spreads both the worker and customer bases over a larger area, so that foreign workers would pay their own social insurance taxes (if they even have that luxury) as well as fund the profits of US share holders. Of course, you can only do this for so long until the workers of the world either unite in revolution or with jobs and savings gain enough economic and political power to end their subservient relationship. Many are hoping that increased productivity and automation will make it possible to have distributed incomes with less workers. That may well be the case. CESJ's solution finds a way to distribute capital credit to each individual so that, from birth, they accumulate self-liquidating assets which eventually produce either a gauranteed income for retirement or even a dividend stream for a basic income before retirement (although I can't see how one can have both). This would certainly solve the distributional problem, at least domestically. Since CESJ is an international player - working not only in the US economy but also overseas there are hopes that the developing world will adopt Capital Homesteading and tell the multi-nationals to do something nasty to themselves - althouth I feel that if Capital Homesteading were tried overseas the IMF and the multi-nationals can be counted on as an enemy. I agree with tying social security reform to employee-ownership, though I would start accumulation with entering the work force rather than at birth - allowing employees and employers to invest in an ESOP rather than a mutual fund account (which the President's plan would have in private hands and the Unions and Democrats would have in government hands). Ideally, a large chunk of the employer contribution to Old Age and Survivors Insurance would go into the ESOP Trust (and yes, the rules for ESOPs would most like need modification to do this) - and I would create structures so that the various factions in firms would be represented on the ESOP board - labor would have their seats, management employees theirs, techies theirs, engineer's theirs, etc. I would also provide for an equal contribution for each employee, regardless of income (most ESOPs distribute in relation to salary - I found when working for one that this made control more top heavy than it otherwise would be). The employee contribution would then be used for diversification. This contribution would remain linked to income, just as it is now, though higher income individuals would initially finance some of the transition costs. During the transition, some percentage of higher income FICA taxes would go to FICA, while low income individuals would pay entirely into their 401(k) type accounts. Also, some of the employer contribution would go to FICA during the transition, though increasingly large percentages would go to ESOP trust funds. Of course, some firms would never go to ESOPs because of how they are owned and because of their size, these would continue to pay into FICA, though Employee contributions would be credited equally, rather than as a match to the employee contribtion. Of course, you will likely find companies turning to ESOP ownership, as the best employees will vote with their feet. Additionally, adoption of this plan is internationally portable. Multi-national firms who adopt it will find it hard not to institute it in some form overseas, which will change the labor market anywhere a firm with significant employee-ownership exists, and without the resistence from multi-nationals and the IMF that capital homesteading might attract. Of course, as I said in the beginning, the ownership structures we set out are not the real solution to the problem. What is needed is some form of gauranteed income which increases with FAMILY SIZE. This would encourage people in their 20's to 40's to have more children then they otherwise would (high income individuals tend to have less children, which is why it is important to reconnect income itself to family size). CESJ would use capital credit to provide for dividend income, as well as have a higher personal exemption and direct subsidies to lower income families - all with a proportional income tax. I favor a slightly different approach. I would do away with both subsidies and individual income taxes below the high income level (which I define as $100,000 for an individual earner from all sources - with no marraige penalty so the spouse's income is not taxed individually unless it is also above $100,000). The vast majority of revenue would be raised through a business income tax under which dividend payments not reinvested and wage and salary income would be taxable (salaries are now deductable as a business expense). I would cut many of the tax credits and add a few, such as a family size credit - with a $5,000 per child or dependent spouse federal credit and state and local credits which would be set large enough so that they provide a middle class income to each family. In Nortern Virginia the state credit would have to be $5,000, downstate it would be less. In San Francisco it would most likely be huge. In Iowa it would be smaller. I would also add credits for financing home mortgage and edu cational loans and health care which would either be paid to the employee or to the employer if the employer arranged for the financing. The tax rate would be set so that employers with the average number of employee dependents would pay about what is collected now through the current individual income tax and business income tax systems. Firms with higher numbers of employee dependents would pay less in the end, while employers with less employee dependents would pay more in the end. In practical terms, transitioning to such a tax would lead most firms to rearrange their salary structures. A higher minimum base wage would be necessary, though the market would probably dictate this. I favor a $7.50/hour net base pay (after taxes and before credits) - so the likely result would be some lowering of wages at the highest level. This is not necessarily a bad thing. The end result would be the ability to have kids if they are wanted, and given the money, I think most parents would want them - and want them sooner, provided that the income is there to support them. It currently isn't there for some, who find they have to wait until they are too old to start a large family in today's economy. There are many one and two child families who's parents are my age. In a healthy society, there should be a lot of 3 and 4 parent families with parents my age. A society is sick if it does not grow enough to support itself in the future. By that standard, we are truly a sick society. Either CESJ's plan or my plan will increase ownership and basic incomes. The question is, which will pass. Although mine is a bit more redistributive and more radical in some ways, I think it is also more readily understandable and incremental in others. I'm not sure that changing the monetary system is that easy to swallow, while a pro-family (pro-life) tax credit system which involves the elimination of income taxes for most employees and the privatization of social security with ESOPs might just speak into the listening of the current administration and House leadership. Retaining progressive income taxation (at a lower rate) with the purpose of retiring the debt and partially financing social security privatization, as well as an equal payment of employer contributions regardless of income will speak into the listening of the Senate Democrats. Of course, as we all know, the real challenge is getting the powers that be to listen. It seems that the rhetoric around this issue is more designed to rally voters and raise campaign funds then it is to change policy. We shall see. Michael Bindner
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