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Re: MONETARY: Discussing the unjust monopoly



Dear Monetary Reform members,
Dan Parker says " Alexander de Mar, in his Science of Money, avers usury was child's play compared to the propensity of gold to centralize wealth and power."
 
EXACTLY!    Which is probably why PM Mahathir has ruled out gold for the national currency and why the Seven Steps proposal created such interest in Malaysia -- it would DEcentralize wealth and power while ending much usury and maintaining money's value.  (However, at the international level, an experiment with gold as a standard of value and convenient way of setttlement for international trade is definitely going ahead -- in fact, it has already been started with a bilateral agreement between Malaysia and Saudi Arabia.)
 
      In Malaysia, as regards national currencies,  Peter Challen and I were essentially witnessing, and being as it were part of, a battle between extremists and moderates.  If the extremists win the day it is very likely that gold will become national currency in the Islamic societies, (even though gold for national currency is nonsense and will create larger rich-poor division etc. and all Dan's other arguments against gold).  Those arguments said, however, it is STILL possible that gold will win the day in Islam.  The underlying reason is that gold represents a reassertion of Islamic values versus "western" values -- and that is basically why the murabitun are concentrating, in the first instance, on the Islamic gold dinar.  So Dan (and I and others in this Group) can say what we like about the disadvantages of gold as national currency but that does not mean it will not win through in Islamic societies. 
 
I think that Dan may be missing a point about Social Credit money and Islam.  To the Islamicist, Social Credit money is fiat money because a) it is created out of nothing and b) it has no intrinsic value.  Moreover, it  is viewed (rightly or wrongly) as inflationary.  Furthermore, it is a weak argument to say that "Socred money issuance is approximated on the actual wealth capability of the sytem".  The word "approximated" is where the problem lies.  In reality, Socred money has no direct relation with productive capacity, particularly, no direct relation with the individual elements of productive capacity e.g. a particular piece of machinery or a factory. 
 
    I will now be blunt about something which has to be said.  Whenever monetary reform is mentioned in conventional economic and political circles it is always alleged that the printing of money is proposed ("Just as in Germany in 1923, dear boy") and that government public spending is being favoured over market spending with consequences for allocative efficiency.  Indeed, James Robertson is building a big file of all the answers from bank officials, politicians, civil servants etc.  I have not yet seen that file but I bet that the answers are ALL as I have indicated.
 
    So Dan's defence of Social Credit is, frankly, sneered at by the conventional mind.  That may not be fair but James Robertson's file will be proof of rejection by the conventional mind
So it is not possible to win a monetary reform argument with conventional minds UNLESS you start upfront with the clearest statement of counter-inflationary intent (and the mechanism to do it)  AND you also address the allocative efficiency argument.  In Seven Steps to Justice, Peter and I record the opening of a correspondence between ourselves and the Governor of the Bank of England.  Claiming to have read binary economics, the Governor then said that binary economics was inflationary money-printing, breach of allocative efficiency etc.  It was all untrue -- nobody who has genuinely read about binary economics could say other than that it is counter-inflationary and allocatively VERY efficient.  It therefore took some time to focus the Governor's mind on reality and when Peter and I had him pinned to the wall, what did he do?  Why, he refused to reply, of course -- which is the position at present.
 
    Dan asks whether there should be a one-size-fits-all solution to the current monetary problem. The Seven Steps book does not propose that.  It has much content and, inter alia,  it proposes that nations/societies should find their own monetary solutions (whereas at the moment they cannot) and it proposes local and community currencies on which there is considerable discussion.  In fact, there seem to be three broad headings which could give a wide appeal:--
a)    International .   Bernard Lietaer's terra.
b)    National.  Fiat interest-free money directed at productive capacity and wide ownership with debt-free money to keep stable level of prices.
c)     community and local currencies.
 
    I should add, however, there is other possibility e.g. locally-issued money for productive intestment on wide ownership principles.  BUT such possibility will remain inchoate until the whole monetary reform issue is successfully opened up.
 
    Dan also says "There is no reason that a pure Social Credit economy could not exist in one country or region, and interact well with a pure system of binary economics in the next."  That sounds to me a nice theory but it is missing the key issue -- how to open up the monetary reform debate successfully.  The Seven Steps do that nicely because they address conventional concerns and open up the monetary debate as well as enabling all sorts of monetary reformers more hope of achieving their goals than would otherwise be the case. 
 
Rodney Shakespeare.