Re: Mondragon: Re: Mondragon

[Dan Bell <dbell@kent.edu>]

Estimado Fred,

Se puede participar en Espanyol tambien.

Saludos,

Dan Bell

At 06:57 PM 7/2/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>
>Dear Race,
>Luther is a tough act to follow.  Though I also read recently that the 
>population of Germany declined by one-third during the politico-religious 
>fighting of the Reformation and Counter-Reformation, so maybe I ought to 
>avoid Luther's act altogether.  ... In any case, a big part of the problem 
>here is simply that not enough people speak (let alone write) enough 
>English to participate.  Time demands are another problem.  We'll see.
>Regards,
>Fred
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:race@netspace.net.au>RaceM
>To: <mailto:mondragon@cog.kent.edu>mondragon@cog.kent.edu
>Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:13 PM
>Subject: Re: Mondragon: Re: Mondragon
>
>>
>>Dear Race, Chris and <mailto:mondragon@cog>mondragon@cog:
>>Lots of, uh, challenging short-term deadlines in Mondragon.  Lean 
>>production, you know.  Hope to add my two cents to the discussion when 
>>things slow down a bit at the end of the month or in August.  I was just 
>>scratching out a handful of "key" factors I think have been in play in 
>>Mondragon in recent years and the list quickly grew to a dozen or 
>>fifteen.  Reminds me of the comment made by a Canadian who visited the 
>>co-ops a year or so ago.  She said, "Whenever we ask you a question about 
>>Mondragon, your first response is:  'It's complicated' or  'Yes and 
>>no'  or   'It depends.' "
>>
>>Regards,
>>Fred
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>
>>From: <mailto:Hsq95@aol.com>Hsq95@aol.com
>>
>>To: <mailto:mondragon@cog.kent.edu>mondragon@cog.kent.edu
>>
>>Cc: <mailto:lr@ownershipassociates.com>lr@ownershipassociates.com ; 
>><mailto:ff@ownershipassociates.com>ff@ownershipassociates.com
>>
>>Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 1:04 AM
>>
>>Subject: Re: Mondragon: Re: Mondragon
>>
>>
>>
>>Race -
>>
>>I believe that through past correspondence you have acknowledged an 
>>acquaintance with my partner Fred Freundlich who teaches on the faculty 
>>of Mondragon University.  He and his colleague Luxio Ugarte have a long 
>>standing theoretical and practical interest in the democratization issues 
>>you describe as they are being played out in Mondragon.  Those questions 
>>are also a major focus of our work here at Ownership Associates in ESOP 
>>and cooperative companies that are our clients.
>>
>>If you aren't in touch with Fred and Luxio on these topics, you may want 
>>to consider doing so (ff@ownershipassociates.com).  You can see for 
>>yourself if our work at Ownership Associates has anything to contribute 
>>to these questions.  My partner Loren Rodgers who takes the lead on our 
>>Ownership Culture Survey (OCS) work and other responsibilities is nearly 
>>finished with a re-tooling of our web page that will provide easier 
>>access to people who wish to make use of our work.  This note will 
>>hopefully spur him on to get the revised web page done in the coming week.
>>
>>Loren will be presenting on some of that work at the Eastern States 
>>Worker Cooperative Conference along with Tim Huet and others July 10-21 
>>at the University of Maryland.  I will unfortunately be tied up at a 
>>competing conference in Philadelphia most of that weekend on behalf of 
>>the Mondragon inspired Sweat X project.  I may be in there that Friday 
>>night.  Are you planning to attend?
>>
>>Finally, in my opinion Tim Huet and his colleagues in the Bay area have 
>>gone further than anyone else in this country in digging in to the 
>>details of how to make Mondragon style cooperative structures work.  As 
>>far as the gray hairs go though David Ellerman, Robert Oakeshott and 
>>probably yourself still set the standard.
>>
>>Chris Mackin
>>www.ownershipassociates.com
>
>Dear Fred
>
>Thanks for your message. I'll look forward to your Luther-like nailing up 
>on the Portalon of your fifteen or so propositions of Mondragonian 
>ambiguity in August or sooner. Meanwhile, as you will see from my reponses 
>to Chris Macken and Shann Turnbull, one aspect of the mission of COG's 
>Mondragon page seems to me to be to encourage as many industrial 
>relations, human resource management and industrial democracy scholars and 
>practitioners as possible to apply their minds to the question of how the 
>excellence of corporate governance in the Mondragon mould can be 
>replicated at the shopfloor level, and it is very much my hope that people 
>on the COHG page list who know of prospective sources of advice will alert 
>them to the discussion. Correspondingly, there is a need for respondents 
>within the co-operatives and I wonder if you have any views as to how the 
>interest of prospective candidates can be engaged? Best wishes, Race
>
>--
>
>
>Dr Race Mathews,
>Senior Research Fellow,
>Government and Governance Unit,
>Faculty of Business and Economics
>Monash University.
>
>Postal Address:
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>South Yarra, Vic, 3141,
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>
>

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