RE: BOUNCE homestead@cog.kent.edu: Non-member submission from ["Dave Wheatcroft" <dwheatcroft@lineone.net>]

["Goodall,AH (*)" <A.H.Goodall@lse.ac.uk>]

Can anyone tell me how I can de-register myself.  The route suggested when I
registered isn't working.

Thanks

Amanda

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deborah Groban Olson [SMTP:dgo@esoplaw.com]
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> Subject:      Fwd: BOUNCE homestead@cog.kent.edu:    Non-member submission
> from  ["Dave Wheatcroft" <dwheatcroft@lineone.net>]   
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> >>From dbell@kent.edu  Mon Jan 10 11:31:46 2000
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> >From: Dan Bell <dbell@kent.edu>
> >Subject: BOUNCE homestead@cog.kent.edu:    Non-member submission from
> >  ["Dave Wheatcroft" <dwheatcroft@lineone.net>]   
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> >Deb,
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> >Dan
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> >>From: "Dave Wheatcroft" <dwheatcroft@lineone.net>
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> >>Dear Homesteaders
> >>On the risk factor can I just make the following comments.
> >>As a worker the things that dominates how you spend your money depends =
> >>on disposable income.
> >>I don't take the view that workers don't invest in ownership (Shares) =
> >>because of the risk factor. More likely there are other forms of =
> >>competition for the money that are more attractive to the worker, =
> >>betting on the horses and the lottery to name just two of the most =
> >>popular but far more risky, the reason for this, in the UK at least is =
> >>the fact that the workers were not brought up in a shareholder =
> >>environment and they don't understand it, they are far more familiar =
> >>with  betting as it is straightforward and easily accessible to them =
> >>even though it is almost certain they will lose their money.
> >>So this is the challenge for us, how do we convince them that "Betting"
> =
> >>on shares particularly in the company where they work is better?
> >>The answer is publicity, education and accessibility.
> >>For one thing it can be as secure as banks, take the record and returns
> =
> >>of the share markets over the past few decades.=20
> >>For another it can just as exiting as horses (although a little slower =
> >>tracing the movement of your shares every day or hour if you are that =
> >>keen.
> >>Finally if you pick the right investment you can be on a real winner, =
> >>which is especially rewarding if you are involved and have contributed =
> >>to it yourself.
> >>These are the points we are not getting across to the workers.
> >>I read in a book once that the test of how good a company thinks it is
> =
> >>to offer some of it's shares to the workers to buy and watch the take =
> >>up.
> >>If the workings of the company is transparent the workers would be more
> =
> >>likely to invest in it, it's the secrecy of the Board Room that puts =
> >>workers off and the feeling that they are just a number and not a valued
> =
> >>person, even if that converts to a valued asset.
> >>
> >>Spreading the ownership and sharing the wealth, even in some small way,
> =
> >>can only be good for the company, community, nation and world. =
> >>unfortunately in the past few decades things have been moving the other
> =
> >>way and although EO has slowed it down a little there is still a =
> >>mountain to climb to even stop the trend let alone reverse it, but that
> =
> >>shouldn't stop us from keeping on trying
> >>  =20
> >>
> >>Dave Wheatcroft
> >>01246 233438 -Tel
> >>
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> Dear Homesteaders
> >>
> On the risk factor can I just make the following = >> >>comments.
> >>
> As a worker the things that dominates how you = >>spend your=20 >>money
> depends on disposable income.
> >>
> I don't take the view that workers don't invest = >>in=20 >>ownership
> (Shares) because of the risk factor. More likely there are = >>other
> forms=20 >>of competition for the money that are more attractive to the
> worker, = >>betting on=20 >>the horses and the lottery to name just two of
> the most popular but far = >>more=20 >>risky, the reason for this, in the
> UK at least is the fact that the = >>workers were=20 >>not brought up in a
> shareholder environment and they don't understand = >>it, they=20 >>are
> far
> more familiar with betting as it is straightforward and easily=20
> >>accessible to them even though it is almost certain they will lose their
> = >> >>money.
> >>
> So this is the challenge for us, how do we = >>convince them=20 >>that
> "Betting" on shares particularly in the company where they work is=20
> >>better?
> >>
> The answer is publicity, education and=20 >>accessibility.
> >>
> For one thing it can be as secure as banks, = >>take the=20 >>record and
> returns of the share markets over the past few decades.=20 >>
> >>
> For another it can just as exiting as horses = >>(although a=20 >>little
> slower tracing the movement of your shares every day or hour if = >>you
> are=20 >>that keen.
> >>
> Finally if you pick the right investment you can = >>be on a=20 >>real
> winner, which is especially rewarding if you are involved and have=20
> >>contributed to it yourself.
> >>
> These are the points we are not getting across = >>to the=20 >>workers.
> >>
> I read in a book once that the test of how good = >>a company=20 >>thinks
> it is to offer some of it's shares to the workers to buy = >>and watch=20
> >>the take up.
> >>
> If the workings of the company is transparent = >>the workers=20 >>would
> be
> more likely to invest in it, it's the secrecy of the Board Room =
> >>that=20
> >>puts workers off and the feeling that they are just a number and not a =
> >>valued=20 >>person, even if that converts to a valued asset.
> >>
>  
> >>
> Spreading the ownership and sharing the wealth, = >>even in=20 >>some
> small
> way, can only be good for the company, community, nation and = >>world.=20
> >>unfortunately in the past few decades things have been moving the other
> =
> >>way and=20 >>although EO has slowed it down a little there is still a
> mountain to = >>climb to=20 >>even stop the trend let alone reverse it,
> but
> that shouldn't stop us=20 >>from keeping on trying
> >>
>    
> >>
>  
> >>
> Dave Wheatcroft
> 01246 233438=20 >>-Tel
> 
> >>
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> >>
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> >Dan Bell
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> >Ohio Employee Ownership Center
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