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>>From mharrington@milken-inst.org Wed Jan 5 19:04:43 2000 >From: Michael Harrington <mharrington@milken-inst.org> >To: "'Deborah Groban Olson'" <dgo@esoplaw.com> >Subject: RE: Globalization as Social Darwinism, Workers' risk aversion, g > ood policy and personal greed >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:01:19 -0800 >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) > >Deb, > >Yes, I do believe that the most viable long-term solution is for all people >to own a diversified portfolio of productive assets, which could include >land, real estate, private partnerships, debt contracts, etc. but most >typically would be stock in public corporations. This way one is protected >from economic shocks that adversely affect one company, one region, one >industry etc. I concur with the biological analogy for the economy and I had >often thought of my appraoch as a wholistic one. But the basic idea is that >the economy develops naturally over time with constant feedback and >endogeneous effects - endogenous meaning generated from within the workings >of the system. >This is why models that are rigid and based on linear equations work best on >isolated problems in the economy - like a specific market or industry or >firm. Such equilibrium models cannot deal with the biological, wholistic, >feedback analogy very easily. > >To get to the SQPQ issue, it is my feeling that ESOPs were a mechanism to >get to broader ownership, not to serve an end such as a cooperative utopia. >I believe the Kelsos argue this as well. ESOPs were conceived as a tool to >work within the prevailing paradigms of finance and organizational >structure. >Employment is a means by which to accumulate income that can be capitalized >into assets which is the wealth that then needs to be diversified. Employee >ownership does this at the firm level whereby workers can capture some of >their surplus labor value by using credit to buy out previous owners. Tax >policies favor borrowing for productive investments, so why not use such >policies to provide greater economic security to the large proportion of >taxpayers who are employed? >The ultimate goal is to sever the employment relationship so that we don't >have to be wage slaves and can actually choose other ways to spend our time. > >ESOPs do not redistribute wealth because owners are paid fair market value >for their stock. This adheres to the private property maxim which Kelso >wanted to follow. >I think the problem with SQPQ from Norm or Shann's POV is that it introduces >politics into the business arena and therefore invites all kinds of >political infighting (not that it's not already there but the idea is to get >it out). The idea of an ESOP is that no one should have any strong >objections if the transaction is voluntary and not coerced. The same >objection probably applies to using state charters over corporations. > >In general, getting from here to there on policy in economics is usually a >fairly straightforward theoretical problem, but when the actual politics >gets going the process loses all semblance of rationality. I think this is a >legitimate fear for proponents of ESOPs and explains why few rational minds >wanted to tackle the issue of international trade on the ground in Seattle. >But of course I am biased as more of a scientist than an activist. > >I would like to see policies or strategies that encourage labor leaders to >demand equity participation in wage bargaining - this entails also accepting >undiversified risk, so this must be managed some way through participation >in voting control or reinsurance. I think a viable role for labor reps is to >represent workers as shareholders and employees within the corporate >governance structure. Outside shareholders could use representation as well >to overcome the collective action problem for diversified minority >shareholders. I would hope that enlightened labor leaders would contribute >to this discussion so that we can reconcile the idea of broadened ownership >with organized labor interests. > >Those are my thoughts for now... >regards, >Michael > >-----Original Message----- >From: Deborah Groban Olson [mailto:dgo@esoplaw.com] >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 2:05 PM >To: Michael Harrington; Homestead >Subject: RE:reply to Harrington re: Globalization as Social Darwinism, >Workers' risk aversion, good policy and personal greed > > >Michael: > > Your reply raises a number of questions, some of which I would like >to >lead back to my Stock Quid Pro Quo (SQPQ) proposal in the earlier Homestead >discussion. If I understand you correctly, you believe that the best type >of ownership broadening policy would provide every person with a wide >variety of stock in many companies, whether or not he or she were and >employee owner. I favor that idea. The SQPQ proposal offers a method of >getting to that position, that differs from the Kelsonian method of getting >there. It also provides a more collective solution to handling the assets, >by providing funds such as the Canadian labor venture funds, to handle >them. Both Shann and Norm Kurland have critiqued the SQPQ idea, as has >Robert Stumberg of the Georgetown Law Center and author of " Investor >Rights and Local Economic Development. I have already published some other >verbal critiques of the idea I received from labor attorneys. I have not >come up with a synthesis of these critiques and the original idea. > > However, I am asking your thoughts on this again in order to spur >further >disucssion about the parameters necessary to achieve a workable capital >broadening mechanism. I am trying to open our discussion beyond the pro and >con on the Kelsonian paradigm. > > I am intrigued by David Korten's idea that the economy operates less >mechanically and more biologically. I have not gotten far enough into his >second book to say more than that. I know he is one of those who believes >that we should use the power of the state to charter corporations as a >means to exercise more social control over them. I, personally, like the >aspect of employee ownership and the other Kelsonian ideas that are market >driven, and less dependent on regulation. However, I fear that they lack >the necessary social safety net. > >Deb > At 09:39 AM 1/5/00 -0800, you wrote: >>Deb, >>I would like to respond to your first set of questions as this is my >primary >>area of research. >>Years ago I asked myself the basic question: if everybody basically KNOWS >>that accumulation and ownership of capital is the secret to wealth in a >>capitalist society, why do we persistently gravitate to employment >contracts >>(and we have known this for well over a century, since the days of >Carnegie, >>Morgan, and Rockefeller, through every 'get rich' book written since)? >>One can and many do gravitate toward entrepreneurial activities - starting >>with the first paper route and evidenced by many asset-poor immigrant >>groups. >> >>Well, finance theory says that people are risk averse, economics prefers to >>say people are utility maximizers - from clinical and empirical observation >>I go with the bias of finance (they're not exclusive assumptions - it's a >>matter of emphasis). >>Starting with this premise that risk aversion determines much of human >>economic behavior and that people have different propensities for risk, I >>set out to test the implications and look for supporting research - there >is >>a overwhelming wealth of it. >> >>Decision-making theorists like David Kahneman and Amos Tversky have run >many >>experiments to show how poorly humans calculate probabilities in order to >>maximize utility under uncertainty - they're often wrong. However, >>evolutionary psychologists John Tooby and Leda Cosmides have shown that >>humans can't intuitively calculate probabilities but they are very astute >>with frequency counts. And they are most accurate with frequency counts and >>evaluations of decisions that affect their survival - in other words, risky >>situations. Humans seem to be very sensitive and keen when it comes to >>survival risks and this certainly makes sense given natural instincts. >> >>What this means is that humans think about risks first and returns or >>payoffs later - they display a minimum tolerance for risk that varies >across >>individuals and also varies over time. When the world becomes more >>uncertain, people become more careful. Many studies have also shown that >>people are risk averse in the domain of gains and risk seeking in the >domain >>of losses. So, when survival is acutely threatened then it usually makes >>sense to take a gamble. This confusion over risky behavior can be cleared >up >>by further defining the behavior not as risk averse, but loss averse. It's >>not actually risks we avoid, but the possibility of a loss. Thus nobody >>loses sleep after buying a lottery ticket and not winning $1 million, but >>after one has the million, they will really sweat about losing it all. >> >>The implications for investment risk-taking, employment and economic >>security are many. >>Natural inclinations reinforced by socialization discourages people from >>taking the risk of ownership. >>We don't have schools for capitalists, only labor training. The problems >of >>capital financing are considerable. >> >>The desire for economic security by a citizenry dependent on employment >>creates political pressures for ever-expanding social insurance programs >>like SS and Medicare, and outright transfer programs. >>These are paid for by onerous tax rates on labor incomes. The result is >that >>there are many impediments to employee ownership that are rooted in the >risk >>dilemma. >> >>The positive take is that economic security and risk management in a fast >>changing world is probably achieved more efficiently with a diversified >>portfolio of assets than with cumbersome national insurance pools and >>questionable employment guarantees. Thus ESOPs and employee ownership >>schemes, as long as they don't violate the loss averse theory of behavior, >>can achieve economic security with freedom of choice better than the >>promises of the government. The emphasis should be on internationally >>diversified portfolios of assets for every citizen, which would cover all >>those people who don't choose to be employee owners of business - but >>artists and social workers and academic researchers! (This would also >>require functioning private and social insurance markets to cover the >>contingencies of bad luck - paid for out of premiums, not necessarily >>govt-subsidized. Society still needs to provide a social safety net.) >> >>There is much more to be said on these issues... >> >>Regards, >>Michael Harrington >>The Milken Institute >>1250 Fourth Street >>Santa Monica, CA 90401 >>mharrington@milken-inst.org >>TEL: (310) 998-2699 >>FAX: (310) 998-2625 >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Deborah Groban Olson [mailto:dgo@esoplaw.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 11:07 PM >>To: Homestead; Richard Ferlauto; Per Ahlstrom; Lynn Williams; Leo Gerard; >>David Imbroscio; David Wheatcroft; Damon Silvers >>Subject: Globalization as Social Darwinism, Workers' risk aversion, good >>policy and personal greed >> >> >>Dear Homesteaders: >> >> I receive a lot books and articles related to our mission and our >>efforts to develop policy. I want to share with you my questions arising >>from a law review article given me by Ted St. Antoine, a distinguished >labor >>law professor at the University of Michigan, and from David Korten's book, >>When Corporations Rule the World. Both of these authors seem to share much >>of the world view stated in the COG mission. Yet each of them raises issues >>that have not been discussed to date in the COG discussions. I am >currently >>reading Korten's book The Post-Corporate World, and would like any thoughts >>you may have about that as well. >> >>Theoretical Questions: >> >>Based on Duke Law Professor Paul Carrington's, 3 The Green Bag Law >>Journal1998 article "The New Social Darwinism" in which he equates >>globalization with a resurgence of the Social Darwinist views of the >>pre-progressive era: >> >>********Is it unrealistic to propose that workers undertake the risk of >>being capitalists, because human nature amongst the working class is >>generally too risk averse? >>********Is it wise for society to focus on a risky proposition such a >>ownership, as a major social underpinning? Will it create greater social >>unrest? >>********Is the risk of ownership any greater than the current periodic >>unemployment risk to the average worker? >>********Is risk the normal state of affairs for workers and humanity, so >>why postulate life-long jobs as a serious option (especially when they are >>disappearing in Japan)? >>******** >> >>David Korten's book When Corporations Rule the World, lays out an agenda >for >>social change aimed at meeting the basic COG goals of a sustaniable and >just >>civil society which includes: >> >>********a world-wide economic accounting system that counts all the >>environmental and social costs of production, >>********a tax system which actively encourages stewardship of resources and >>communities and removes taxes on productive work and basic consumption, >>********a legal system which eliminates corporate political contributions, >>requires the media to provide free air time for political debates, bans >>political advertising, replaces the IMF and WTO with a UN agency that will >>encourage more self-reliance and less debt by current debtor nations, and >>seriously limits the rights of corporations by removing their status as >>"legal persons" for some purposes and exercising the right to grant or >>revoke corporate charters and thereby set standards for corporate behavior >>in civil society. >> >> >>I like a lot of what Korten is trying to accomplish. However, much of it >>runs contrary to the narrow short-term self-interest motivations of many >>current players who have the power to make these changes. >> >>Is there anything about what we in the employee ownership community do or >>are proposing, that is any more likely to accomplish these ends than what >>Korten proposes? >> >> Does employee or broadened ownership provide more room for accommodation >>between greed and accomplishing our mission? >> >>Best regards, >>Deb Olson >> >> >>Deborah Groban Olson >>Project Co-ordinator >>Capital Ownership Group Project >>Ohio Employee Ownership Center >>Kent State University >>c/o Shared Equity Strategies, Inc. >>3163 Penobscot Building >>Detroit, MI 48226 >>(313) 331-7821 or (313) 964-2460 >>(f) (313) 331-2567 >>email: dgo@esoplaw.com >>web site: http://cog.kent.edu <http://cog.kent.edu/> >> >
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